Curse

Lest121 · Jun 15, 2011, 08:55 PM // 20:55

All of them, but because I want things for GW2 am forcing myself to max titles, before the HoM calculator I had maybe 6 titles max...

thedeadlyassassin · Jun 16, 2011, 01:17 AM // 01:17

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Originally Posted by Anaraky

How did you manage that? On my newest Warrior I have like five prestige armor sets and several "prestige" weapon sets while still saving or using almost everything I can have use for (Mats, Black/White dyes etc etc) and still have several hundred plats in the chest without any farming nor selling to players. And I haven't even finished LMotN, Tyrian Vanq/Guardian or the EotN rep based titles. You earn a lot by just playing the game, if you really yearn for some extra gold you can always do the Zaishen quests. An extra plat or two adds up.

OT: Old LDoA was horrifying. Other then that Tyrian skill hunter is pretty awful with the random spawns and mostly useless skills. Maxing Lucky/Unlucky isn't easy either.

Oh, I have hundreds of plats. But, when you have to max 3 titles that require countless hours grinding or about 1000k plat each... hundreds of plats are... not worth it. I'm just going to have to raptor farm a load during Wintersday in July.

Anaraky · Jun 16, 2011, 03:11 PM // 15:11

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Originally Posted by thedeadlyassassin

Oh, I have hundreds of plats. But, when you have to max 3 titles that require countless hours grinding or about 1000k plat each... hundreds of plats are... not worth it. I'm just going to have to raptor farm a load during Wintersday in July.

At most Sweet Tooth / Drunkard will cost 2000k gold and I am convinced most people can get it to 1000k-1500k gold easily due to random drops and buying from players. Hundreds of plat, which you claim you have, is actually a significant portion of that. Once again, my Warrior as an example. His weapons and armours alone must have cost around 1000k gold and I could easily get a couple hundred more by selling random stuff from my storage. That is one title and there are a lot of titles you get from actually playing I haven't done on him yet.

But I digress, this isn't the place for this discussion. I'm sorry for the slight derail.

Arato · Jun 17, 2011, 12:13 AM // 00:13

You only get the real big money though from trading with players. Merching, using material/rune/dye traders and just picking up dropped gold and quest reward gold really doesn't earn that much. So I wouldn't count that as "just playing the game" that's still spamming in kamadan for hours on end trading.

X-Plosiv · Jun 17, 2011, 07:41 AM // 07:41

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Originally Posted by Arato

You only get the real big money though from trading with players. Merching, using material/rune/dye traders and just picking up dropped gold and quest reward gold really doesn't earn that much. So I wouldn't count that as "just playing the game" that's still spamming in kamadan for hours on end trading.

Who lied you that?

If you VQ 1 area per day, or lets say 2 if you are doing title, after 1 month you can EASILY get 100k+.

Now combine that with people doing that for a long time, and getting lucky drops such as white/black dye, elite tomes etc.

Arato · Jun 17, 2011, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by X-Plosiv

Who lied you that?

If you VQ 1 area per day, or lets say 2 if you are doing title, after 1 month you can EASILY get 100k+.

Now combine that with people doing that for a long time, and getting lucky drops such as white/black dye, elite tomes etc.

white/black dye = trade to make most profit

elite tomes = trade to make money

It still boils down to standing around spamadan trading thanks to the godawful trading system in this game.

Would it kill Anet to make an in game auction system and remove the gold cap so that you didn't need to use substitute currency?

Anaraky · Jun 17, 2011, 07:48 PM // 19:48

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Originally Posted by Arato

white/black dye = trade to make most profit

elite tomes = trade to make money

It still boils down to standing around spamadan trading thanks to the godawful trading system in this game.

Would it kill Anet to make an in game auction system and remove the gold cap so that you didn't need to use substitute currency?

I doubt he is arguing that you make more money by not trading, but you are seriously underestimating how much you can get by just vendoring stuff. I did that with my latest project and made around 1500-2000 plat while still having most of the Tyria/EotN titles left. At a certain point standing around spamming trade just isn't worth it unless you are focusing on powertrading, which is a whole beast in itself.

thedeadlyassassin · Jun 17, 2011, 08:18 PM // 20:18

You must be incredibly lucky. If I sold the stuff in my storage, I could probably afford the titles, or at least 2 of them. But, as been said, you gotta stand around hoping for just one person to walk out and be like "I WANT THAT!". Not to mention, that when I DO make the money, I still have to stand around spamming WTB conumables. Those titles suck. I wouldn't mind them so much if Anet released more PvE titles to get GWAMM that didn't involve me farming the same area over and over to make the money then spam and try to live through their horrible trading system. Heck, I'd even do more rep titles. I'm sure the Krytans would start loving me if I actually did their quests. I'm sure the Ascalonians would love me for going back in time and saving them from the Charr. I'm also sure the Shining Blade would love me for destroying the white mantel and saving the world. Oh, but... they don't. I have to go eat some Candy to become a God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals, despite the fact that I've done everything ingame besides make money and eat junk food.

Arato · Jun 18, 2011, 03:54 AM // 03:54

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Originally Posted by Anaraky

I doubt he is arguing that you make more money by not trading, but you are seriously underestimating how much you can get by just vendoring stuff. I did that with my latest project and made around 1500-2000 plat while still having most of the Tyria/EotN titles left. At a certain point standing around spamming trade just isn't worth it unless you are focusing on powertrading, which is a whole beast in itself.

You can make some money, but it is slow in comparison, you don't even really notice it as it trickles in and trickles back out unless you literally don't spend any money as you go.

But trading is still the backbone to making real money, unfortunately trading is miserable and time consuming and results in you not playing the game but standing in a town. I've been trying to buy enough obsidian shards for my obsidian armor (to complete the HoM monument of resilience) for weeks now, just cruising from LA, to ToA, to Kamadan and checking what people are selling at a reasonable price, still haven't managed to buy many (and I don't know how to effectively solo farm them like I can ectos), I'm thinking in the end I'm going to have to either bite the bullet and literally stare at kamadan for hours on end, or get ripped off by the trader.

killmeshiniing · Jun 18, 2011, 04:16 AM // 04:16

I dislike the group pvp titles, as you must have a good start on the title to get in or you must join a huge guild. Also the gamer title, since you have to choose to either get lucky/unlucky points or participate in the arenas.

StormX · Jun 18, 2011, 04:28 AM // 04:28

All pve titles because they need to be maxed before you can display them in HoM. Tops of the list would be cartographer because I hate pve, have no sense of direction and get lost all the time. (maguuma jungle has the shittiest maps ever) I may have 9k hours under my belt but i dont intend to ever get gwamm. gaming shouldnt feel like work which i dont enjoy.

X-Plosiv · Jun 18, 2011, 07:42 AM // 07:42

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Originally Posted by Arato

white/black dye = trade to make most profit

elite tomes = trade to make money

It still boils down to standing around spamadan trading thanks to the godawful trading system in this game.

Would it kill Anet to make an in game auction system and remove the gold cap so that you didn't need to use substitute currency?

I wanted to reply, but then

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Originally Posted by Anaraky

I doubt he is arguing that you make more money by not trading, but you are seriously underestimating how much you can get by just vendoring stuff. I did that with my latest project and made around 1500-2000 plat while still having most of the Tyria/EotN titles left.

tadam!

...anyway,

selling black dyes and elite tomes ...to sell it you need to be max 10 minutes in Kamadan.

I dont have nothing against selling item for 1k below others to sell it faster, because in that time while they wait, ill already get another 1k by playing the game

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Originally Posted by Arato

But trading is still the backbone to making real money, unfortunately trading is miserable and time consuming and results in you not playing the game but standing in a town. I've been trying to buy enough obsidian shards for my obsidian armor (to complete the HoM monument of resilience) for weeks now, just cruising from LA, to ToA, to Kamadan and checking what people are selling at a reasonable price, still haven't managed to buy many (and I don't know how to effectively solo farm them like I can ectos), I'm thinking in the end I'm going to have to either bite the bullet and literally stare at kamadan for hours on end, or get ripped off by the trader.

Dont get it. No offense, but at reasonable price (what is that today 3.1-3.2 ? last ive seen) you can buy atleast a stack per day. honestly.

Urcscumug · Jun 18, 2011, 01:07 PM // 13:07

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Originally Posted by StormX

All pve titles because they need to be maxed before you can display them in HoM.

Well not "all", technically. You get the Hero titles for example just by doing the final mission of each campaign. And I don't know if I'd call the Protector titles "maxing", you get to do stuff that you haven't done only once (the bonuses). It's true though that the Factions master's rewards, having to beat the time, can feel more grindy than the others.

thedeadlyassassin · Jun 18, 2011, 08:04 PM // 20:04

Really? I beat most Cantha missions in about 10 minutes. Thanks to the 7 hero update...

Arato · Jun 19, 2011, 05:18 AM // 05:18

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Originally Posted by X-Plosiv

I wanted to reply, but then

tadam!

...anyway,

selling black dyes and elite tomes ...to sell it you need to be max 10 minutes in Kamadan.

I dont have nothing against selling item for 1k below others to sell it faster, because in that time while they wait, ill already get another 1k by playing the game

Dont get it. No offense, but at reasonable price (what is that today 3.1-3.2 ? last ive seen) you can buy atleast a stack per day. honestly.

Rarely see anyone selling them at all. I see people sell ectos, but not shards. I see plenty of people wanting to buy them and they're already advertising, so why bother standing in the same town as they're already trying to advertise wtb?

Merre · Jun 20, 2011, 03:17 AM // 03:17

My least favourite title to get for GWAMM was Cartographer. I had been sitting at maxxed 25 titles for the longest time but couldn't suck it up and just finish cartographer.

To Chicken To Die · Jun 20, 2011, 08:28 AM // 08:28

I like max titles. I hate those that aren't.
Good thing is I start liking titles over time.